newbie.. help!

[hugoshi]

I bought salomon perform 5.0's for 129.. did I do good? they're last years model probably.

NOw.. what should I get? I'm a skiier and snowboarder by background, I've never skiboarded before.. I've gotten short skiis before (140cm) to make things easier for me, and I loved it... The store I went to had junior skiis for like 70 bucks.. could I just get those? how different is skiing on short skiis from skiboarding?

what kinda releasable skiboards can I get at a low price? should I just get non-releasable?


thanks

[Roussel]

basicallty skiboards are made and shaped like snowboards, they are symetical and have non-releasble bindings.

small skis are much more narrow then skiboards and your foot is more towards the back. on skiboards, your foot in completly in the middle of the board making riding backwards (fakie) easier, as well as carving and control.

they are also much wider then skis making riding throught different conditions of snow easier. they also have a much smaller turning radius making controling and tight mturns muchn easier

be sure to get a good brand if you buy skiboards, ie the brands that are sold here at SBOL. most skiboards you see at ski resorts are real skiboards but simply very small skis which are targeted toward unexperienced people and are made with poor contruction.

[Tiffy]

First off avoid salomon like the plague, i rode them for years because i did not know any better, that was until i stumbled across this site and saw the light! i now ride canon neal lyons pros and im never going back. If you are starting out skiboarding you might aswell invest in a decent pair off boards by one of the core companies, believe me you might aswell learn on the best from the start. With regards to releasables go for the spruce pro riser release bindings these can be mounted on any skiboard with four hole inserts, salomon have 8 holes so it wouldnt be possible to do it on them. Hope this helps

[PureVenom]

If you are gonna get skiboards then you don't really need to get releasables. Unless you are very prone to twisting falls a lot. Then you might need releasables. If you just like to just crank down the slopes (more like skiing) and you dont fall much then thats not even an issue. Whatever you do make sure you ask Greco for the right skiboards for your height and weight before you buy. Have fun and welcome to skiboarding. Hope you love it as much as we all do.;)

[PureVenom]

Sounds like from your other post that you should get the mike nick pro's 98cm since you are 5'11 200lbs. I am 6'0 198lbs and thats what I will be riding this season. Plus they are REALLY good boards. Go with the FF pro bindings if you can they have a very fine adjusting capability to them. If not then go with the bombers. Or the spruce pro's if you think you need the releasables.

[hugoshi]

hm... ok.. is there a disadvantage to going with releasables(besides cost?) just that they might pop off?

[Greco]

a bit heavier than non release too.

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[hugoshi]

ok thx all, I went with the snowjam 75cm for cost and to avoid injury(shorter than 90cm) I think I can deal with chatter, I used to deal with it when I rode short skis.

since my skiboards are non-releasable(I might get release bindings later.. we'll see), does anyone have tips for falling in a safe manner?

[Greco]

fall on your side or back, avoid head first falls if you can. but sometimes you just don't see it coming :eek:

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[xxjzattaxx]

g you talk like you've had lots of experiance in the fall department....... havent we all. expecially some of us who overshoot a jump and nearly kill ourselves not to bring up and specifics from last year......

skiboardings fun, falls, as long as your not scared you wont get hurt.. and know your limits.... but man try new things have fun and ull do good bro.

[hugoshi]

actually 5 minutes after I posted that I called SBOL back and ordered the spruce mountain boards instead... safety first I guess. as this is my first board, I think it's better to be safe than sorry.. next time. I'll get the 200$ Line boards that are on sale.


not that releasable bindings will save me. but I feel safer now, like my knee won't rotate and snap or something like that

[PureVenom]

Unfortunately....the price or the boards themselves wont last but...Have a blast bro....keep us informed of how you like skiboarding.

[zenderfall]

Originally posted by hugoshi

not that releasable bindings will save me. but I feel safer now, like my knee won't rotate and snap or something like that

I'm surprised you said that coming from a snowboarder, no less. Snowboards have no releasable bindings, yet not a single person or company (or anything that hit mainstream) has ever came up with releasable snowboard bindings.

And nobody ever talks about how unsafe a snowboard can be, think about how both of your legs twisted together in the wrong direction can hurt you just as bad or worse than non-releasable skiboards.

When I got off snowboarding and found out that skiboards are non-releasable, I just said, oh well, whatever, it's the same where I came from so no big deal-and it hasn't ever been.

[hugoshi]

I've been snowboarding, but I don't snowboard alot or call myself a snowboarder.

On a snowboard, you can't twist your knee apart, since your feet are connected, but on a skiboard you can... that was my rational.

[Tiffy]

None of us in here are in it for the safety, bring on the elements and lets ride.

[SkaFreak]

Actually at least 1 company did make releaseable bindings for snowboards. The miller Z interface (which can also be used so you can wear snowboard boots on skiboards, not sure how well though) is the one that I know of for sure, and various others most likely have done similar. If you want to take a look here's the link Miller Z Interface (http://www.rideharder.com/revolution_V2.html)

[PureVenom]

Yes but there is a reason nobody sells the miller z anymore. From what I understand they were A. too high and B. popped off to easy and C. A royal bitch to get back on correctly.

[PureVenom]

And just a side note...You are probably less likely to hurt yourself bad skiboarding. You have more control over your legs and boards when you are skiboarding. If you do fall you can be more controlled about it. Vs. snowboarding where both of your feet are locked in on one board. When you slam on a snowboard you slam hard because you cant conrol the fall properly for the most part. And yes you can twist out both knees on a snowboard. Injuries depend on what kind of trick you are trying to do and weather or not your skill level is high enough to even be trying that trick.

[hugoshi]

actually(and I know I'm a huge nerd for doing this) I searched for injury stuff related to skiboarding, and what I found out was that although skiboarding has a decreased risk of injury from snowboarding(and slightly more than skiing), skiboarding injuries have a higher rate of fractures than snowboarding (about 35%, vs 28% for snowboarding and 12.5% for skiing)

so yea.. be careful! but have fun

[Greco]

that data is very questionable because it doesn't take into account what type of skiboarders were injured. i believe most skiboarders injured are primarily young "snobladers" renting for the day. they go to the park and try stuff that's way over their heads and get hurt. this would explain why a few mountains in canada have banned snoblades in their park (which they rent at their mountain.)

I'm trying to think, I personally do not know one person who as fractured a leg or hurt their knee while skiboarding. I've read about a few on the net and talked to some people over the phone but that's it. not very scientific but interesting.

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[SkaFreak]

I was talking to a lady who was on ski patrol at one of the mountains near me who was telling me how dangerous skiboard bindings were since they didn't release. But after talking to her for a minute about them she said that almost every single injury she had seen someone get due to the bindings was a beginner who was just learning on a pair of salomons who falls forward, digs their tips in, and spin around causing a spiral fracture. She then said that she actually had seen very few experienced people ever get injured on skiboards. I have a feeling that yes not releasing does heighten the chance of injury, but the chances of an experienced skiboarder getting injured simply due to the nonreleaseable bindings is still pretty low