Groove BG Pro or Canon Neal Lyon's

[phillycore]

After trying skiboarding out for the first time this winter, I can pretty much say that I'm hanging the skis back up in the basement...

I'm 6'1" and 275lbs so I know I want to stick with a 99cm set, however I'm still debating which boards I want to get..

I'm stuck between the Canon Neal Lyons and the Groove BG Pro models... The extra width of the BG pro has peaked my interest as with my size I could definitely use the extra surface to board on. I pretty much use the whole mountain when I get a chance to go. I tend to go off piste a lot on the green and blue runs, where I just stick to the main trails on the blacks and double blacks. I'm not comfortable doing the jumps quite yet, however I have a blast in the half pipe.

For the bindings I am looking at the groove x1's, or either of the snowjam extreme's. One downside that I'm seeing to the Canon is their warranty issues with delaminating and wanting you to use their td (PLASTIC) bindings. If I'm going to shell out some $$ for a higher quality set of boards, I simply don't want to sacrifice the quality by going with something plastic.

I have noticed that the majority uses the Canon's however..


I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this..


Thanks in advance...

John

[zenderfall]

As far as the skiboards go, the BGPro and the Canon 99's are almost the same in performance, however the BG Pro is a little wider with a deeper sidecut, and has a more rounded edge in the tips.

You can't go wrong with either of them.

As far as the Plastic/Metal Bindings are concerned, I like the Canon TD1's more than my X-1's, because of a few things:

Weight. The X-1's are heavier, and clang a lot when I walk around with them. THe TD1's are lightweight, and the bails hold when closed up, not clanging around and making noise when I carry them.

Tightness and control. The TD-1's are infinitely adjustable. The X-1's are either too loose or menacingly tight. I disliked the fact that when they ARE tight, I was able to lift the toes/heels away from the bindings. People say that's ok, as long as there's no side-side action. I don't care. I didn't like being able to lift my toes away from the boards for ANY reason. I don't have that problem on the TD-1's.

Material. TD-1's are plastic, yes, but they're the same plastic a Glock pistol uses. (Can't tell you how I know that). That's very strong, tough, weather resilient plastic. Slammed boxes and jumps all the time. Came more closely to breaking my legs than the composite bindings. And my X-1's are now a tad bent on the aluminum plate. Plastic won't bend. And since plastic is not a conductor of heat, ice didn't collect on the TD-1's as they did on my X-1's.

At first, I thought that metal bindings were superior in every way. Now that I ride the TD-1's more, I'm wondering if I'll ever strap on metals again.

[phillycore]

Thanks for the input..... I can definitely see how the ice would build up on the metal bindings, I guess the real beef with the bindings would be of the 8 hole variety as they don't tend to fit good on the boots as well as pop out of their adjustment point.
I did mange to pop out of the adjustment point on two seperate occasions on a pair of atomic 99's that I rented.

[phillycore]

The more I read into your reply, the more I think I'd be in agreement with you on a couple things.. I definitely don't like my boots to move around unless the ski is moving around as well. I also like the fact that you can adjust the td's better than the x1's, especially since I have a 30.0 mondo sized boot. Once again thanks for bringing this to light.

As of right now I'm probably going to be ordering a set of BG pro's with the canon bindings (for next season as this one is pretty much over after this coming weekend)

Thanks,

John

[Vitulla]

Well thats a god choice but why not get releasable bindings with your boards. The spruce risers are the way to go, and if your a park rider wait till next year when a newer set of bindings for park riders will be designed.

[FAN70M]

And why haven't Bombers been recommended in this thread yet?

[phillycore]

I'm assuming probably because they are not availale at the moment.