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Milkagon
11-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Hey I'm new here, and from what I've been reading on previous threads I'm debating between two sets of boards, but I can't seem to figure out if I want release or non release bindings.

I've never skiboarded before, I'm totally new, I know how to ski, but it's even been a few years since I've done that. So my big question is, are the chances of me hurting myself with non release bindings significantly higher? I know it says something about it in the bindings section, but I'd like a more detailed explanation and if it's something I should take into consideration as a new rider. I also noted the height recomendations as well.

I'd like to cave in and just buy the non-release (they're cheaper and seem to have better performance), but I'm also cautious and seem to look before I leap. Any input from you guys would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

winterparkrider
11-30-2007, 04:51 PM
What kind of riding do you plan on doing. Whats your hieght and wieght.

Manlenium
11-30-2007, 06:01 PM
I would go straight to non-release. I was in exact same boat. I had some ski experience and wanted to go on the safe side, I ended up buying the high end releasables. I found even on high settings they tending to release on me in sharp turns. This does not give you full potential of the skiboards abilities..... I wished i had bought some bombers instead. I eventually did, man what a difference. You can turn sharper, carve deeper and not worry about release. The boards feel firmly attached to you and the feel is much more fluid.

As long as you ski within your ability and not go straight to the park on the first run. You will do great.

The risk factor is higher with non release, but i would not say it is that much higher then you eating shit with one ski on. Unless of course your height and weight requirements are lower then suggested in the fine print....:p

tyberesk
11-30-2007, 06:12 PM
just so you know...bombers arn't your only option. Extreme IIs are a cheaper alternative along with the Groove bindings, although the bombers are much higher end. There is a new binding coming out this year ZERO bindings....but they arnt out yet, and noones tested them(although they are supposed to be hardcore)

Manlenium
11-30-2007, 06:17 PM
Haha i think he knows what i mean. But the bombers are reasonable when you look at price of releasables. My immediate thought last season was shit.....could of had some bombers.

Ive tried and tested them........I am a believer.:D

Milkagon
11-30-2007, 10:09 PM
Thanks a bunch guys, you helped me out a lot here.

I'm about 5'7" 120 lbs (I'm female, I apologize if there was any confusion) Weight plays a part in this? I definately wont be hitting the park up right away, it's been a couple years since I've touched the slopes. (I have money now)

It'll be much easier deciding on bindings now than the boards. I'm debating on the bwps and the tanshos. Would the longer board be more stable at first? I know I read somewhere that the tanshos have a more skate like feel, and since I love roller blading I feel like getting nudged into them. Although I wouldn't mind picking up a 2nd pair next year.

tyberesk
11-30-2007, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Manlenium
Haha i think he knows what i mean. But the bombers are reasonable when you look at price of releasables. My immediate thought last season was shit.....could of had some bombers.

Ive tried and tested them........I am a believer.:D

honestly manlenium...i dont like bomber bindings. I prefer stiff over flexy. FFpros FTW:cool:


BWPS would be an excellent choice. When choosing tanshos or bdubs...i always reccomend bdubs...because they allow room to grow while being a great beginner board at the same time.

CrazyBoy-1
11-30-2007, 10:55 PM
I'm actually going to suggest the Tanshos. I think that for your height and weight they'll work out quite well and shouldn't even give you stability problems if you pick up speed. I started out on SnowJam 90's, and they were comfortably stable for me even pushing lots of speed. I'm about 6'3" and 185lbs, so I'm just figuring that with your lighter weight and shorter height 90's should be great. Not to mention the fact that Tanshos are way better than SnowJams as far as performance.

nate
11-30-2007, 11:11 PM
either way, maybe choose the one that you prefer the graphics on, and then see what the other looks like next year ;)

Greco
12-01-2007, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by tyberesk
honestly manlenium...i dont like bomber bindings. I prefer stiff over flexy.

bombers are flexy??

g

Manlenium
12-01-2007, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Greco
bombers are flexy??

g

I would go with the tanshos and work up. I am 6'0 200lbs geared. I came down from 105s and loved it. I found the Tanshos great comprimise from hockey and inline. Quick carving and speed, great park boards. Just not amazing in powder and deep snow. I also have BWPs and the same comments go for them too. Youjsut get some extar landing gear and surface for the parks.

I was going to say the same thing Greco.....

Bombers didnt feel flexy to me at all.....I think the bombers make the board do the work. Maybe you are feeling the difference with the plate and bumpers???

I rode with some line Free Flexs (Not quite ffpros but similiar) and bombers and I didnt really feel a difference. I enjoyed the bombers because it felt like the edge transfer was quicker, and was making the board work instead of the binding/boot working.

Check out this photos for the size difference.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd226/Manlenium/IMG_0007.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd226/Manlenium/IMG_0009.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd226/Manlenium/IMG_0010.jpg

SkaFreak
12-01-2007, 04:26 AM
I think he meant he liked having the boards stiffer. The FFPro's have a bigger footprint on the board which makes em stiffer.

Milkagon
12-01-2007, 09:26 AM
Thanks again for all the info guys, I really appreciate it. I'll probably make my decision when I wake up (over night work here). Were suppose to be getting a huge snow storm with a foot to 18 inches of snow, I hope it doesn't taunt me too much...

tyberesk
12-01-2007, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Greco
bombers are flexy??

g

yea g when i stepped onto them...thats the only word i could use to describe them. But i guess when im usta lokens and ffpros everything is flexy.

Greco
12-01-2007, 10:39 AM
i've been using bombers for the past 9 years and i think they are the best. so tight, so strong and the bumpers absorb shock and vibration when i'm going all out. i love 'em. maybe the ones you used we're not setup or installed properly. shouldn't be "flexy" in anyway. when we meet up we'll discuss more and get to the bottom of it.

g

Mark
12-01-2007, 01:37 PM
yea i'll third that, bombers do not flex in any way. maybe you had some super soft bumpers in there or something

Manlenium
12-01-2007, 01:42 PM
I used bombers for two full days and they are amazing. You get a full feel of transfer to the boards, an improved sense of closeness too your boards, the bumpers absorb the bumps. A great difference from the spruce riser/binding combo. I think I rode to hard for the releasables, i turned so sharp and hard they always released. I am not afraid to push the bombers with some 99km/hr spins and turns.

The bombers are so rock solid..............Lovin them.

Greco
12-01-2007, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Manlenium
[ I think I rode to hard for the releasables, i turned so sharp and hard they always released.

when properly set up the spruce release bindings shouldn't do that. what was your din? must not have been high enough.

g

Manlenium
12-09-2007, 01:59 AM
I dont have my sheet anymore........6.5-7 ???. I set them as high and tight as i could. I had them set for the aggressive style.

I found they still released on me, so i got rid of them to Aqua.

The bombers allow me to spin and turn so sharp without that problem. Definate improvement.

Just depends on your style of riding I guess...:confused: