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kirk
12-12-2007, 01:29 AM
After having them stare me down for several days now, I finally got to try out my new boards.

Taking a first look at these things, and they look huge. Something about the width of them sitting next to other boards just makes them look massive. I don't think the pictures really do them justice. These things are really fat!

Before getting them to the slopes, I was actually a little worried the width might have been a little overkill, but as soon as I strapped them on, everything changed. They only look so huge next to other boards because the other boards are so skinny. As soon as I strapped in and looked down at my feet it was like they had shrunk. Something about their width sitting next to other boards distorts how big they look. Once they were on my feet, they looked perfectly proportional.

Having never ridden anything this fat, one of my main concerns was how the width would affect skating. How long did it take to adjust? About two pushes. As far as skating goes, these things feel pretty much exactly like the BWPs. By the time I skated over to the lift, I knew these things were going to be amazing. There was absolutely no awkwardness from the width. Awesome.

Normally I would have gone straigt to the park, but the kid I was riding with wanted to take a normal run to warm up. I figured this would be good to test out the feel of the boards anyway. Conditions were what you would expect from PA... slush, ice chunks, and bare spots randomly placed throughout. The run started out pretty slushy, so I started skating fast to lay down some carves.

Holy shit... these things can cut some trenches! Carving on the soft snow was amazing. These things would dig in tight and gouge their way through carves. Their width not only puts more leverage into your caves, but also keeps you safe so you don't have to worry about your boots dragging when you really lay it down. I had more fun carving on these than I do on Revolts. I hadn't expected this.

A little further down, it started to get into ice chunks and bare spots. On the ice, these did fine. Not as dramatic as the soft snow, but pretty much identical to hitting ice on BWPs. The real bonus here was the extreme width made it so you didn't have to pay as much attention to what was coming up as other 100cm boards. They pretty much just plowed over any irregularities like ice chunks or soft spots without you even noticing. Pretty sweet.

After one run in the terrible PA conditions, we knew it was time for the park. The park was set up half decent for early season. A few beginner boxes, a street rail, a long flat rail, a C-box and some other garbage that only PA parks would throw together. Here's where the real test of the day would come. I was a little worried up until here that the width might make rails a little harder...

I started to eye up my first rail of the day. The single rould street rail. Bam! This width is amazing. It makes grinding even easier. The extra width gives your feet even more support on grinds, almost like a royale groove on skates does. I was impressed. Rolling out of the street rail fakie, i hit the flat rail with a switchup, then headed down to the C-Box and hit that fakie and 270'd out. Thank god for the rope toe, because I hit that line like 30 times in a row. Every grind just felt so solid, and I didn't want to stop. Then came the real shocker. Backslides.

This extra width is amazing for one footed grinds. It just feels like you have soo much more support and balance, it is incredible. This was about the last thing I would have expected about these boards, but it was a great suprise. I bet this effect is even more dramatic on the Condors.

I can't wait to actually try these with more than 10% of a mountain open.


Before riding them, I was worried that the width might adversely affect the boards in someway, but so far, I have seen nothing but benefits. These might look fat now, but I wouldn't be suprised if boards start to come out even fatter. I'm heading back up again tomorrow with Kirk S. and Hardcore, I'll post more after that.

Thanks G for making these boards a reality!

Manlenium
12-12-2007, 05:54 AM
Sounds like they are living up to the hype.:p

Sounds like an investment is in order...

tyberesk
12-12-2007, 06:40 AM
Sounds like they are simply the perfect board for you.....ride em hard!!!

jjue
12-12-2007, 08:48 AM
Thanks Kirk , great review !!! I have enjoyed very much your and Brett's detailed reviews on your new namesake boards ... G and both of you guys have collaborated in producing great new boards with the same new ultra wide bodied form but in different lengths and flexes that seem perfectly suited to your particular riding style and terrain. The reviews really help the rest of us get a feel of what these boards can do , even if we are not up to the same skill level as you guys .
What I have been most suprised at in my own experience and Brklyncarver's experience , as well as your and Brett's experience is that the new ultra wide bodied shape does NOT seem to be ungainly in any way ... that is a revelation , for sure !!!

winterparkrider
12-12-2007, 11:03 AM
kirk, I felt the same way about the condors on rails. I kept saying man these things are big. But the second they hit the rail I was locked on like I have never felt befere.

Kirk S
12-12-2007, 07:04 PM
Lets just say kirk had no problem with the width of these boards he was hitting everything like the champ


And man do they carve, even in the slush covered Ice that we were in.

I'll let kirk explain further

valmorel
12-13-2007, 10:20 AM
Yo Kirk. From reading your review it sounds like up to say 7cm wide underfoot, boards carve real hard, and edge very easily. Then at around 10cm underfoot they have a certain feel, maybe not quite so easy to edge, and not quite so much bite, but moving up to 13ish, nothing much changes from around 10, like there is maybe a sort of break point here, and then, within reason width dont seem to matter much. Does that sound reasonable?

kirk
12-13-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by valmorel
Yo Kirk. From reading your review it sounds like up to say 7cm wide underfoot, boards carve real hard, and edge very easily. Then at around 10cm underfoot they have a certain feel, maybe not quite so easy to edge, and not quite so much bite, but moving up to 13ish, nothing much changes from around 10, like there is maybe a sort of break point here, and then, within reason width dont seem to matter much. Does that sound reasonable?


Definately. Its been a long time since I've ridden anything under 10cm underfoot to comment on them, but these boards have the exact same kind of feel to edge as anything I've ridden recently.

kirk
12-14-2007, 02:55 AM
Day 2 review...

After riding all day Tuesday in the terrible conditions that are Pennsylvania, I definately had not had enough, so the next day I headed back up to 7 springs, this time with Hardcore and Kirk S. This time conditions were even crappier with yet more ice and slush, but again, the boards performed great. Kirk was riding a pair of Loken Ape torches, and next to those my boards didn't look quite so massive. Hardcore was on a pair of weapons and man... those look like twigs compared to these!

The park wasn't any better than the day before, but it was still so much fun on these boards. I still can't get over how solid one footed grinds on these are. I was able to throw fastslides and backslids into switchups and other combos like I would have never dreamed of. Being a kid who spends almost more time on rails than snow, this is the part of the boards has been amazing, especially because I never even considered that the width would have this effect.

The park still didn't have a single jump... so nothing to report here yet.

Although 95% of my time there was hitting rails, we did manage to venture a few runs out of the park, and into the true realm of slush and ice. Again today, the carves these things were laying down were unreal. Down steeps, I was able to throw full lay down, double knuckle dragging carves back to back better than ever before. The only other board I've ridden that carved like this was the Revolt. I did manage to carve too hard on one run and ran out speed, thowing my body into a few flatspins down the hill. Luckily, when you fall on a carve like that, you're already essentially laying down, so at least it doesn't hurt.

I'm still holding out my final verdict until I get to hit a few jumps and a little powder on these, but for my riding so far, I couldn't be happier with these boards. For my riding style, these boards definately seem to fill the gap between the BWPs and the Revolts as my all mountain, all park, all conditions dream board.

tyberesk
12-14-2007, 11:32 AM
yo kirk (ktp kirk just to clear that up) clear your pm box

Mark
12-14-2007, 11:41 AM
I too was very impressed with the KTP's performance.

I really like how today's boards are getting wider and longer lengths and it is getting increasing difficult for someone to confuse them with "snowblades"

Back/Fast slides are a dream with these. Also the graphics are incredible when they arent covered in snow.

valmorel
12-14-2007, 12:40 PM
Kirk, when you get time, I would be real interested to hear how the boards feel in the 40 back position......................

kirk
12-14-2007, 12:52 PM
Definately... as soon as we get some real snow here, I'll pop them back and take them for a spin in the backseat.

Kirk S
12-14-2007, 03:38 PM
comparing the weapons to "twigs" is no excaduration hardcore might as well have strapped hand whittled twigs on to his ski boots (actually the twigs might have been in better condition) haha