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mi6_
12-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Well, I finally got my skiboards yesterday. I had ordered the new 2008 Revel8 BWPs with Spruce Pro Risers and Rossignol Axium 110 bindings. So today I headed to my local hill to test them out.

For those who don't know my background, I am a first-time skiboarder. I had skiied for years in elementry/JH/SH, but haven't skied in probably 5 or 6 years at least. I also have ice skated since I was 3 and played league hockey for 7 seasons. I still rollerblade often in the summer and Ice skate occasionaly. I am 5'6" and about 155 lbs.

So as expected, my boards arrived with the Spruce Pro bindings attached (as all other international buyers recieve them). Greco sent me the new Revel8 115cm bag instead of the 105cm bag I ordered at no charge (a nice surprise). I spent about 20 minutes setting up the bindings. After that I gave the boards a quick wax, and I was all set. The boards looked absolutely amazing. Quality is top notch. They were better than expected.

So I headed to my hill this afternoon and skiied for about 4 hours until my legs were too sore to continue (skiing uphill on these things is a great workout for your legs). I found it a little wierd at first to get around. The boards are quite a bit wider than skis, so to push around with your thighs you need a pretty wide stance to catch an edge. After about 15 meters I had it down pat. I was afraid that the BWP may be a bit long for me, but I found them to be a great size. Only touched ends a few times (unfortunately chipping the decks a bit :( )

My first run was a fairly steep green. I took it easy, going slow getting a feel for the boards. I noticed quite a bit of chatter at first. I suppose part of the problem was that I was on packed snow, much of which is artificial (not the greatest....too much ice). Having only ever skied on 160-170cm boards also meant that it was a bit more change than I was expecting. Also, I think it took about two runs for the wax to clear a bit. They were super slippery at first. I felt like I was walking on ice at times.

On the second run I began pushing harder. I started to realize that the boards felt more stable once you pushed them harder. You can't turn them lightly like skiis. When you get them on their edges they are amazing. Speed was never a problem. These things make you feel like you are riding on a missile. Scenery blurs pretty quickly.

By my third run I started carving. It was easier then expected. I found it worked best for me by building up some decent speed, and then getting nice and low. As you turn in keep your inside ski in nice and tight on its edge, and then push the outside one out (outstretch your leg). When you get it right you can get pretty low. I was amazed at the speeds and tightness of turns that could be accomplished, especially after only 3-4 runs and not having skied in years.

I started pushing really hard, and took a few falls. The Spruce Pro Bindings felt good. The only releases I had were on major wipeouts (had 3 releases I think). Wiped out once, but managed to sort of save it. The skiboards stayed on my feet which they should have. I found trying to skate stop at full speed was suicidal. Probably works good in a bit of power, but on packed, icy artificial snow it was not a great idea. The boards would just slide out from under me, sending my body to the ground. I had to carve deep and shave some speed, otherwise I'd loose my feet under me and eat some snow. Didn't really try snowplowing, but I suppose that would work for someone learning when you find yourself going too quick.

By my 6th run I decided to try some spins and ride fakie. I went to an easy green (which hapened to be quiet in case I made a fool of myself). Started down the hill, and turned into fakie just as you would with skates. Felt very easy and natural. Did a couple of 360 spins. As long as you concentrate on keeping the skis level, it works great. Catching an edge puts you into the spilts and makes you wobble like a bobble-head doll. Only wiped out once while riding fakie, and it was probably while I was too fast for first time out. I found it a bit hard going down backwards. It is hard to see over your shoulder. I think my fear of crashing was holding me back. Felt just as stable backwards as forwards. I was really impressed though. Anyone who skates should be OK on these things. It all feels very natural for skaters. I'm sure in time that I will be going down entire runs riding fakie. Got some pretty funy looks from snowboarders when you pass them backwards!

By the last hour, I was doing some crazy carves (and I know I will still get better and faster yet). These things are incredible. They grip well beyond what you would imagine. If you push them past their limit they will bite you though (at least on the icy, packed artificial snow my hill always makes). I could catch any skier or Snowboarder and would just rip past them. I was actually amazed at how hard I could push these things first time out. Did some black diamond runs too. Went alright. You can really cook on those ones. Controlling you speed is an issue sometimes until you get more comfortable.

Had several people comment on how nice my "Skiblades" were. I of course corrected them politely, and even explained the difference to one girl. Some people look at you like your an idiot, which is OK I guess. The lift line draws some interesting attention. Everyone has their own thing they like. Even a snowboarder was impressed by the Revel8 Skiboards.

Big thanks to all the forum members, Jeff at spruce, and especially all the skiboardsonline people, especially Greco. Excellent product, service, and experience. Best money I have ever spent.

Thanks everyone! See you out on the hills, maybe even in the park when I get brave enough!

Greco
12-15-2007, 01:16 AM
Thanks for the great post!

G

Davelynam
12-15-2007, 02:16 AM
you said that when you tried to skate stop that you slid out. I dont know this to be a problem with skiboards in general and I was wondering if maybe your edges wernt sharpend all the way.
It sounds like you had a great time though. keep up the fakie work.... the ladies love it.

-Dave

mi6_
12-15-2007, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Davelynam
you said that when you tried to skate stop that you slid out. I dont know this to be a problem with skiboards in general and I was wondering if maybe your edges wernt sharpend all the way.
It sounds like you had a great time though. keep up the fakie work.... the ladies love it.

-Dave

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it is just poor technique on my part. They stopped fine when going fast on level ground, but on the slope at an angle, I had a hard time keeping them under me. I probably just need more practice. Perhaps I didn't keep the boards at enough of an angle for the edges to dig in. If I got onto the smooth underside of the boards too much that may explain why I wiped out on really hard stops.

CrazyBoy-1
12-15-2007, 02:47 PM
I've found that for hard stops on ice you really have to concentrate on getting the boards on edge to dig in. I also like to widen my stance a good bit for more stability. I'll try to do most of the braking with the downhill board while keeping the upper board more under my body to keep from sliding out.

Manlenium
12-16-2007, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by mi6_


Had several people comment on how nice my "Skiblades" were. I of course corrected them politely, and even explained the difference to one girl. Some people look at you like your an idiot, which is OK I guess. The lift line draws some interesting attention. Everyone has their own thing they like. Even a snowboarder was impressed by the Revel8 Skiboards.

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Youll get alot of that.......

Just wait till your legs arent sore from uphill riding and you get onto the slopes....:p

mi6_
12-16-2007, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by CrazyBoy-1
I've found that for hard stops on ice you really have to concentrate on getting the boards on edge to dig in. I also like to widen my stance a good bit for more stability. I'll try to do most of the braking with the downhill board while keeping the upper board more under my body to keep from sliding out.

Good advice. I'll have to remember that one.

CrazyBoy-1
12-16-2007, 06:57 PM
Yeah that's what works for me. I also meant to comment on one other thing in my original post. You mentioned that you hadn't tried snowplowing at all. That's good because in my experience that technique doesn't work well on skiboards. Stick with perfecting the parallel stop, and you should be fine.

taimos
12-17-2007, 06:22 AM
looking good looking good, got my bwps right here, but with the exclaim! riser and not the spruce.

can't wait to get out there, 5 days! ba da bing ba da boom!

airdonut41
12-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Trees usually can bring you to a stop :-D. But seriously that's one thing I love about skiboards; it's easy to both skate stop and carve stop (once you get the hang of it). The only thing I have to say to help skate stop is that you should trust your boards; they won't let you down. Don't be afraid to lean into the hill a little bit.

Dan

mi6_
03-21-2008, 05:16 AM
Well, I had a great season on my BWPs. Looks like the end of ski season has arrived for me. We had a pretty good dump of snow last week, but it has been warm this week and almost all the snow in Edmonton has melted. I went to my hill today and did two runs which were horrible. The hill was a giant slush park. The heavy, wet, slushy stuff jusn't isn't fun.

I had a blast on the skiboards this year. I can do some great carves, spins, jumps, and ride fakie quite comfortably. I didn't make it into the park this year though. May try that next year if I feel up to it.

I think next year I am going to try some Tanshos or some Bantams. I really liked the BWPs, but I'd like to gain a little extra manueverability. I found excessive speeds were easily obtained on the BWPs and they stayed quite stable in almost all conditions. I am really curious to try the Bantams, but I am afraid they will be too limited with what you can do with them. The Tanshos will give me a bit more maneuvorability without compromising much in the way of stability. Then again, I wonder if the Tanshos will be too close to the BWPs? Maybe the Banatams would be a better board for me to get to compliment the BWPs. Oh well, maybe I just need to order two sets of boards next season!

I think I am also going to get a pair of Bomber Elite bindings. I was quite nervous about non-releasables, but after a season on the Spruce Pro Primes, I think I'd like to try the non-releasables. That said, I was incredibly impressed with the quality of the setup Spruce has. Jeff has made an excellent releasable option that is bulletproof! These things look and feel indestructable. My only complain is the weight. The riser plate with the bindings weighs quite a bit more than the skiboard. Obviously, going with Spruce Pro Lites may help solve some of this problem. The Spruce Pro Riser setup with Axium 110 bindings feel quite heavy when skating around and turning. I could be wrong, but I think a lighter setup with non-releas bindings such as the Bombers may yield a more responsive ride. Also, depsite having a few wipeouts (sometimes where my bindings released), I didn't feel like any of them would have produced an injury if I had been using non-releasables. Plus having ridden a season with releasables, I feel more conident as to what my limits are and I feel that I can ride non-release bindings with minimal risk.

I did have a hard time skate stopping on ice as I mentioned in previous posts. The hill I ski at is groomed every night and is usually very icy. I found that a ski stop at high speed in these conditions often resulted in the skiboards sliding out from under me, much like slipping and sliding on icy steps. I made sure that my edges were sharpened. I have an SKS edge tuner which I use at just about every wax. The skiboards just wouldn't dig in for me at times. It bothered me because I have skated and played hockey since I was 4 years old. I am no Wayne Gretzky, but I know how to skate stop. I'm not sure if I have bad technique or it is just poor hill conditions that I ski in, but when it is really icy I have trouble staying upright on hard skate stops. I didn't have any trouble stopping hard when it was a little warmer and there was soft snow under me.

Despite what felt like a quick winter skiboard season I had a great time. I can't wait for next winter to hit the slopes again for some skiboard action!

Manlenium
03-21-2008, 07:39 AM
Take out the meter stick and measure out 75 cm. Its pretty small coming down from the 90s. Your balance on 75 will be way off. They would be fun on the groomed days im sure, but anytime the cat busts down, you would be in trouble. I wouldnt recommend it. 90s are great and I wouldnt go below that mark.

I came off realeasables. Although the axiums were geat bindings overall. I felt they were very limited in regards of weight, response. I went with bombers and the tight turning, response is amazing. I enjoy the nons alot better.

You need to pack on some pounds for extra carving!!

mi6_
03-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Manlenium
Take out the meter stick and measure out 75 cm. Its pretty small coming down from the 90s. Your balance on 75 will be way off. They would be fun on the groomed days im sure, but anytime the cat busts down, you would be in trouble. I wouldnt recommend it. 90s are great and I wouldnt go below that mark.

I came off realeasables. Although the axiums were geat bindings overall. I felt they were very limited in regards of weight, response. I went with bombers and the tight turning, response is amazing. I enjoy the nons alot better.

You need to pack on some pounds for extra carving!!

Yeah, I'll probably end up with the Tanshos. Bantams would be fun to play around on though. Maybe there will be a new design for '09 on the Tanshos too?

Glad to hear about the non-releasables. In hindsight I would have saved some money and got those from the start. I was taking off the Spruce Pro Risers from my BWPs and couldn't believe how light the boards are. The bindings are like 3/4 the weight of the setup and it only gets worse as you factor in ski boots! With the exception of the weight, I was very pleased with the bindings.

pinkkid
03-21-2008, 05:13 PM
niiiice!!!! very awesome mi6!!!!! So glad you got to take them out, the BWP's are super sweet and tons of fun and fast! They went through cruddy choppy hard stuff no probelmo for me the other day and I felt very stable going fast in those conditions. I dig them! you can bomb straight down or butter your way down the groomers! and yes you'll learn to stop them on hard pack no problem, just gotta really use your leg muscles and dig the edges in! I use to just pretend I was stopping like I used to on my normal long skis and try to spray someone with snow... it seemed to work great!
The Tansho's... ya heard it b-4 and gonna hear it again, they ar underrated! They fly! they are stable! they spin like crazy fun! they feel like they aren't even on your feet! A great board that looks so cool too!

non releasers!

R8's r da bomb!

Enjoy your ride!