chipping skiboard!?

[hansenbi]

I was on the lift today and I sort of banged both my bwp's together to get rid of the snow as that's what I'd do with skis, and a very very incredibly tiny fraction chipped off. not that it matters, but will it effect my performance at all? and any suggestions as to what I should do about it and as it normal?
sorry I love these boards to death and I just tried them out today.

[jare_ball248]

one tip NEVER bang your boars together. other thing u can do is if the chip is bad enough u can see the core u might want to fill with some epoxy or something. if it isnt to the core dont really worry about it.

[hansenbi]

haha thanks. nope it was just like...1mm chipping some of the plastic or whatever coating it is outside?

[jare_ball248]

then that aint really anything to worry about.

[hansenbi]

haha thanks. what's epoxy by the way? and how do I apply it?

[jare_ball248]

i dunno how to explain it

[JoeyAncz]

when i was a wee little boy and i got my first pair of skiboards, i did the same thing and noticed some chiping... never did it since.

[Manlenium]

Originally posted by hansenbi
haha thanks. what's epoxy by the way? and how do I apply it?

Theres mixing instructions on the back....

[hansenbi]

okay new problem.
I'm waiting perfectly still at the lift in line, when these god-damn pain in the ass skiiers or snowboarders come rolling in and start banging their boards against my skiboards. it obviously causes little damage but after a while, small chips (once again) start peeling off.
problematic?

[BrklynCarver]

If you want your epoxy to dry faster, mix in some baking soda. If you do one part epoxy and one part baking soda, it's gonna dry super fast.

[hansenbi]

sorry but I havent a single clue as to what epoxy is. or how to obtain it. let alone make it.

[SkaFreak]

Epoxy is just a type of glue that you can get just about anywhere. It comes in two parts that you mix together, and normally comes in a syringe with two tubes so that it is easy to get equal amounts of the two. It has instructions on it that explain exactly how to use it. I did notice that you are 16, and I doubt that it is the same in China, but I know that where I am you have to be 18 to buy it (for the same reasons as spraypaint and such).

[BrklynCarver]

epoxy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoxy

Chinese version: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=epoxy&go=Go

[hansenbi]

Here are some pictures I took of the chipping areas.
I noticed my bomber elites also...well...chipped isn't the right word but some shavings came off. now how does that work?

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=79080066tr7.jpg

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Sorry but I just got these skiboards and just pretty much concerned with them. love them to death.

and I got a hold of some 'epoxy' but I haven't a clue as to how to apply them onto the skiboards. I can't read chinese so i'm not sure.

[nate]

There should be two tubes, take equal parts of each, mix them together on a paper plate or something, then just smear it on to keep water out. It's a really good idea to seal up any major chips, I got a nasty (quite a bit worse than yours) chip once on my EMP's that I didn't fix and the whole tail started to delam. No problem though if you just fix em up when you get back from the slopes.

[bee]

One nice thing about aluminum bindings is that any nicks scratches etc. Wont need any repair. Aluminum almost instantly oxidizes forming an air tight seal preventing deterioration.
So aluminum can't rust like steel.

[hansenbi]

Haha true. so when I put this epoxy thing on the chipped areas, do I just fill in the hole and let it dry? and some of the areas that the board is separated I use epoxy like glue, correct?
thanks guys
hb

[nate]

Yup, it's just like glue, put it on and let it dry. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by separation, but you might want to throw a clamp on it if it looks like that'd help.

edit: ahh, yea, just saw those pics that showed it, I'd say you'll want to smoosh some epoxy in there and clamp it down. I had some similar stuff on mine and used stuff called JB Weld, which is two-part like epoxy but it's grey and I guess has steel in it to help bonding.

[bee]

DISCLAIMER:I have zero experience repairing skis. Nothing has been tested.

Wouldn't the best epoxy be the same that is used when making the boards? I am pretty sure it is the same, or very similar to marine epoxy. It comes in cans and is a 1:1 mixture. (expensive)

The 2nd best be fiberglass repair epoxy they sell for autobody. It isn't 1:1 and it will desolve styrophome perhaps some plastics not sure. End result after cure should be very similar to marine epoxy. Not sure if it is compatible with skiboards.

3rd the stuff that is sold in a syringe that is for plastics. Can be bought at any hardware supply store/auto store. (most convenient)

4th generic clear epoxy sold in syringe, not the 1min drying type. The longer the cure time the stronger the bond. (also very convenient)

Above epoxys for sealing/gluing delamination and small chips. Benefits: clear, somewhat flexible, liquid for better penetration.

Perhaps something like JB Weld when you need to build up the area. Chunk missing, perhaps above the metal edge and epoxy is needed to support the edge?

Though from reading other posts here and elsewhere it seems like most everything works, just make sure you:
clean the surface
bring to room temperature
Dry thouroghly before repair.
Use name brand glue, the more you pay the better your chance of success.

For the picture where the top sheet is coming up, I would use 1 of the clear epoxys mentioned above. Gently lift the edge and spread a lot of epoxy around maybe with a toothpick. Use clamps to hold even pressure across the topsheet. Wipe up any excess epoxy immediately. You can put some packaging tape on the underside of your board to protect it if you are afraid of getting glue everywhere, it can happen.

Sorry this computer doesn't have a spellchecker installed.:rolleyes:

Let me repeat, I have never fixed skis, but I do break stuff often, and have a lot of general repair experience.

[Manlenium]

Those scuffs are barely noticible. You should see my boards...:p

[hansenbi]

Originally posted by bee
DISCLAIMER:I have zero experience repairing skis. Nothing has been tested.

Wouldn't the best epoxy be the same that is used when making the boards? I am pretty sure it is the same, or very similar to marine epoxy. It comes in cans and is a 1:1 mixture. (expensive)

The 2nd best be fiberglass repair epoxy they sell for autobody. It isn't 1:1 and it will desolve styrophome perhaps some plastics not sure. End result after cure should be very similar to marine epoxy. Not sure if it is compatible with skiboards.

3rd the stuff that is sold in a syringe that is for plastics. Can be bought at any hardware supply store/auto store. (most convenient)

4th generic clear epoxy sold in syringe, not the 1min drying type. The longer the cure time the stronger the bond. (also very convenient)

Above epoxys for sealing/gluing delamination and small chips. Benefits: clear, somewhat flexible, liquid for better penetration.

Perhaps something like JB Weld when you need to build up the area. Chunk missing, perhaps above the metal edge and epoxy is needed to support the edge?

Though from reading other posts here and elsewhere it seems like most everything works, just make sure you:
clean the surface
bring to room temperature
Dry thouroghly before repair.
Use name brand glue, the more you pay the better your chance of success.

For the picture where the top sheet is coming up, I would use 1 of the clear epoxys mentioned above. Gently lift the edge and spread a lot of epoxy around maybe with a toothpick. Use clamps to hold even pressure across the topsheet. Wipe up any excess epoxy immediately. You can put some packaging tape on the underside of your board to protect it if you are afraid of getting glue everywhere, it can happen.

Sorry this computer doesn't have a spellchecker installed.:rolleyes:

Let me repeat, I have never fixed skis, but I do break stuff often, and have a lot of general repair experience.

Wow....really appreciate the effort you put into this. Thanks alot mate I'll go get some epoxy right away.
does anyone know what type is the best?

[anaesthetic]

I haven't done it before but I am going to use Marine Epoxy to fill a chip on my skiboards. It'll be waterproof.

[hansenbi]

so there are numerous epoxy's yeah?
which ones the best one?

[Manlenium]

Originally posted by BrklynCarver
If you want your epoxy to dry faster, mix in some baking soda. If you do one part epoxy and one part baking soda, it's gonna dry super fast.

Chem 101.....:p

[the fitz]

i am a carpenter and often work with laminated plastics .to prevent chipping where a laminate meets at a corner i.e the edge of your topsheet/edge of skiboard ,the edge should be filed off to form a bevel edge, using a file or some sandpaper on a wooden block,in the same way you would detune the tips and tails of your edges, Do this round the entire edge of your skiboard.Have a look at the end of a kitchen worktop in your house and you will see what i mean. Any small nicks i find after a days use i dab with a small amount of clear nail varnish (BOAT VARNISH) is better,this acts as a sealer to prevent moisture penetration which causes delamination

[hansenbi]

i'm planning on going skiboarding again tomorrow however I still haven't found the epoxy in china yet. with the damage shown through the pictures i've posted, does anyone think it's a bad idea for me to skiboard with the current state they're in? OR that they shouldn't be a problem?

thanks.

edit: and once I do apply the epoxy, how long do you think it'll take for it to dry? cause I'm going tomorrow and it's too late to get epoxy now, I want to hit the slopes as soon as I can once (if) I apply it tomorrow!

[bee]

any hardware store will have it.
probably any automotive store.

Just get the 5min clear epoxy and fix part where the top sheet is lifting, you can ignore the others if they don't get worse.

If you get the kind in the picture it is easiest and portable, you can even take it with you.

[nate]

definitely fill in the part where it's lifting, don't want water in there.

[hansenbi]

Originally posted by Manlenium
Those scuffs are barely noticible. You should see my boards...:p

haha did your boards have cracks in it? like on the top layer from all the jumps.

[Mark]

Originally posted by the fitz
i am a carpenter and often work with laminated plastics .to prevent chipping where a laminate meets at a corner i.e the edge of your topsheet/edge of skiboard ,the edge should be filed off to form a bevel edge, using a file or some sandpaper on a wooden block,in the same way you would detune the tips and tails of your edges, Do this round the entire edge of your skiboard.Have a look at the end of a kitchen worktop in your house and you will see what i mean. Any small nicks i find after a days use i dab with a small amount of clear nail varnish (BOAT VARNISH) is better,this acts as a sealer to prevent moisture penetration which causes delamination

excellent advice ! ill be sure to do that. thanks fitz :)

[hansenbi]

damn...I took it to a skirepair shop and they said some of the core cracked..not alot but some.
damnit. and the top layer cracked as well.
:(

[nate]

shoot G an email.
his customer support is seriously unbelievable.

[hansenbi]

indeed it is. I would def. vote for greco if he ran for president, no doubt about it. i'm sure others would too :D

did some more grinds today and top layer of my bwp cracked halfway between my bindings. :(
...more epoxy!

[bee]

I would stop epoxying, and talk to Greco. Sounds like manufacturer defect if the core is breaking, from hard but normal use. He may want them back or pictures or something, with as little epoxy as possible lol.

And wait, the top sheet cracked short way through the center of your bindings? Do you mean in the middle between the front and back binding mount holes? I would think that is the strongest part of the board once bindings are mounted.

[hansenbi]

haha yeah ill take some pictures today.

[Greco]

Originally posted by bee
I would stop epoxying, and talk to Greco.

i spoke to him two days ago and took care of him.

g

[hansenbi]

Originally posted by nate
shoot G an email.
his customer support is seriously unbelievable.

his customer support is amazing. brand new boards are heading over too, already in the mail.

[nate]

Originally posted by hansenbi
his customer support is amazing. brand new boards are heading over too, already in the mail.

for sure man, gotta love it :D