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tyberesk
11-12-2008, 03:43 PM
Im writing a paper with a group about how UVM can become a more ecofriendly campus...and our group plans on building a Sustainability Lab with things such as Cow-Power and Algae Fuel Cells.

DO YOU THINK ALGAE POWER IS THE FUTURE?:confused:



Rough Draft Of Proposition

As part of the research facility, we have plans to construct a few vertical ponds and tanks in an attempt to grow algae to produce some or all of the buildings fuel from. Having multiple ponds could allow us to test different strands of algae against one another, and possibly attempt to genetically alter the algae’s genes to make them more effective. Over time way may be able to even power the majority of the campus by the discoveries that can be made. It is a fact that some strains of algae have half our their body weight being oil, meaning that these strains are extremely efficient in fuel production. They are also among the fastest growing plants in the world and their lipid oil that is produced can be used to make bio-diesel for cars, trucks, airplanes, and even power plants.

The use of algae to make bio-fuel is a relatively new power source and many other researching institutions make different claims as the best way to produce the maximum amount of fuel. One company claims the best way to grow algae has been proven to be in a vertical cell, because by going vertical you can get more surface area to expose the cells to sunlight. While another states that algae grown in the dark is the most effective. In this process the sun is replaced by sugar, essentially, which is fed to the algae, which then produces different types of oil that can be processed into a variety of fuels, suitable for cars and planes. With all of these production methods out there, having our own facility on campus would allow us to do testing and figure out what method would eventually be best for widespread use throughout the campus in vehicles along with for electricity, and maybe eventually the nation. This part of the research facility could also be used to determining what type of algae produces what type of fuel. One species may be best suited for jet fuel, while the oil content of another may be more efficient for truck diesel. Even small changes in the nutrients that certain algae get can help to create a more efficient oil content.

It is estimated that 100,000 gallons of oil can be produced per acre of land, while corn only makes about 30 gallons per acre and soybean about 50 per acre. In theory using algae seems to be the smartest green fuel option out there. So far there have been around 65,000 known algae species discovered, with perhaps hundreds of thousands more still to be identified. This means that this lab could be useful for many years of studying, with different types of algae and different methods being tested. With the right labs constructed the University of Vermont could be put at the forefront of green energy production at the United States. This would not only bring a lot of famous scientists to our school, but bring increased funding from federal and corporate sources. It could be a great addition to the environmental nature of this school and possibly make it one of the most attractive colleges in the nation for future scientists.

Algae is one of the most adaptable living organisms out there today and locating algae processing plants intelligently can add to their efficiency. If we were to place this facility next to carbon producing power plants or other manufacturing plants instance, the plants could sequester the C02 they create and use those emissions to help grow the algae, which need the C02 for photosynthesis. We all know that the University of Vermont has plans to become a carbon neutral campus and it has been proven that algae can be a great carbon sequester. All of the positives of putting a relatively small amount of funding towards this makes it a worthwhile investment. There is also plenty of money in the country for green sources of energy, so with some grants and government help, this part of the facility could be almost free.

Ian.cap
11-12-2008, 03:55 PM
Was just reading about this the other day. Sounds good but there doesn't seem to be a model for mass production yet, right?

tyberesk
11-12-2008, 04:31 PM
Was just reading about this the other day. Sounds good but there doesn't seem to be a model for mass production yet, right?

its actually looking more and more like there can be. They say it would take roughly the land area of maryland...and the US would have no more need to import fuels....but it will cost roughly 300 billion upfront and 40 billion a year.....but we spend alot more than 40 billion a year in imports, so it would pay for itself eventually

I guess we just have to figure out what kind of algae is the best to use first....and how to use it. I mean if 1 acre makes 100,000 gallons....you really can't beat that lol

Greco
11-12-2008, 09:15 PM
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Kirk S
11-12-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm feeling green

adeehr
11-13-2008, 11:17 AM
Now this is something that our government should be spending their time on, not trying to get Roger Clemmens to admin he used steroids. Imagine what could be possible if the new president elect really stands behind the new energies he says he will, this could really be a very viable source for many uses. Great to see companies do things like this.

Good luck with the paper/project Ty!

tyberesk
11-13-2008, 11:22 AM
Now this is something that our government should be spending their time on, not trying to get Roger Clemmens to admin he used steroids. Imagine what could be possible if the new president elect really stands behind the new energies he says he will, this could really be a very viable source for many uses. Great to see companies do things like this.

Good luck with the paper/project Ty!

the government actually spent over 25 years studying it, but in the mid 90s they said that the use of algae would never be as economical as fossil fuel (back when oil was just over 20 a gallon)....if only they woudla stuck with it lol and saw the price increasing

Its kind of obvious the demand would be higher...they shoulda known prices would rise

adeehr
11-13-2008, 11:30 AM
the government actually spent over 25 years studying it, but in the mid 90s they said that the use of algae would never be as economical as fossil fuel (back when oil was just over 20 a gallon)....if only they woudla stuck with it lol and saw the price increasing

Its kind of obvious the demand would be higher...they shoulda known prices would rise

Wow I had no clue, thanks for the info. We've been doing more and more as a company to go green. We've shut down a few offices and allowed some workers to work from home, saving on overhead at the office and on gas for the employees. They've also done some work at our HQ to make energy consumption more efficient as well. I'm glad to see people taking extra steps these days. Like you said though, wish they would have been doing this since then. Could you imagine if they had?

Greco
11-13-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm glad to see people taking extra steps these days. Like you said though, wish they would have been doing this since then. Could you imagine if they had?

i'm a bit too young to remember but i heard jimmy carter put solar panels on the white house when he was president and reagan had them removed when he took office and that was a looong time ago. :-)

g

tyberesk
11-13-2008, 02:22 PM
i'm a bit too young to remember but i heard jimmy carter put solar panels on the white house when he was president and reagan had them removed when he took office and that was a looong time ago. :-)

g

yea i heard about that.....the thing with solar panels is that they are usually warrantied for around 20 years but take around 30=35 years to pay for themselves. Thats the reason why UVM won't put them on most of their buildings...thats why we are trying to raise money to help make it more worth it for them to do it. That and burlington is the 2nd cloudiest city in the country. We are also experimenting with wind power here.

In the next year or two we will be constructing the premier envrionmental center on the east coast with a living system that processes waste without using chemicals. Its work done by John Todd....if you guys don't know who he is...he makes alot of systems using living organisms to clean water among other things.

Only thing keepin us from building some of this stuff is a 20 million dollar budget deficet from the current state of the economy

Greco
11-13-2008, 02:26 PM
i brought it up more for the symbolic nature of both actions more then the practicality.

g

DennisEvans
11-13-2008, 02:27 PM
i brought it up more for the symbolic nature of both actions more then the practicality.

g

Ohhhh...SNAP!!! lol :D

Manlenium
11-19-2008, 04:11 PM
I think that since it can be produced so quickly and the cost is relatively low it could be the next future fuel.