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Whittal
12-23-2008, 07:00 AM
Hi everyone, I joined upto the forum yesterday but I have been reading it for quite some time, just getting opinions and information on Skiboarding.

I started Skiing when I was 11 and went away once a year with my school until I was 15. I got to a pretty good standars and I was doing pretty much any run I liked. I've been Skiing in France, Itally and Austria as they have really the clostest and most affordable resorts and pistes to England.

I just got back from Val Thorens, France, on Saturday and it was my first time back on the snow in 6 years. I remembered the Bigfoot boards from when I was younger and wondered if there was anything similar and found that Skiboarding had come about in my absense. The most similar thing i could find to hire close to Skiboarding was the Solomon Skiblades, which, to be honest, weren't that great. They were extremely heavy and far too thin for my liking.

The main reason I decided to choose Skiboarding this time around was because all of my friends who came with me are Snowboarders. Don't get me wrong though, I don't have anything against Snowboarders, it's just that I didn't want to spend the entire week learning to Snowboard. I wanted to start having fun straight away, whilst being able to keep up with them in whatever they did.

Now although the Solomon Skiblades did the job for the week I want to try something proper that I can use all around the mountain and the Revel8 Revolts drew my attention as something that might be good for me. I like to carve as well as go off piste in powder and also kickers, drops, etc. If anyone can think of a better Skiboard for what I need it for could you please suggest it, although I get the feeling that someone might suggest KTP's, though, I don't know what the major differences with the Revolt's are.

With binding's I'm stuck choosing, not between the models, as I have absolutely no clue about them, but between the types. I understand the Pro's and Con's between each but I still cannot make a decision.
I would like the non-releaseables because they are lightweight and apparently allow for better flex and connection to the board, although correct me if I am wrong. Now the only thing that is putting me off is the fact that the rsk of injury seems to be much higher, and as a Rugby player for my university an ankle or knee injury would put me out for months. If anyone has a better insight into what might possibly be best for me, or if you know of good lightweight releaseables please let me know.

Finally I am still wondering about boots. As a Rugby player I have quite big calf muscles and I find it difficult to find a boot that will fit me right in the foot (size 9-10, wide) and actually manage to fit around the calf without making my foot loose in the rest of the boot. Is it just a case of trying on boot after boot and getting them moulded correctly, or are there certain boots that are just better for this? Also again i would like something reasonably lightweight again. This isn't because of a lack of leg strength, I would just rather have it feel as natural going down the mountain as possible, and I hope some of you can relate to this. I know it is unatural to be gliding over snow but I'd like to have it feel as I have as little on my feet as possible.


Sorry for the long first post with lots of questions but this seems like the best place to ask it. I hope all of your experience will help me to choose the best equipment for my next time out on the slopes.


Just a little photo of me off piste with a friend. Only a little 15 minute trek though, nothing special.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1202/88/38/550100947/n550100947_1729206_7710.jpg

jjue
12-23-2008, 08:44 AM
Hi Whittal , how much do you weigh ?, this is very helpful in deciding on boards.
Look at this classification of boards that I put up .
http://www.skiboardsonline.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=6837
. I think you are interested in an all mountain type board with enough surface area to do some off piste , as a starting point I would recommend looking at what I call big surface area all mountain boards .. these are the Spruce 120 , Alp 110 , Revolt 105, or KTP 101 , these vary based on length vs width but have similar surface areas . increased length gives you more stability front to back in variable snow , shorter length increases manuverability and "sportiness" narrower is quicker edge to edge . .

As for release vs non release bindings , the longer you go in board the more risk as there is more torque on your joints with a longer board front and back of your boot . The spruce riser system gives excellent and tight control of your boot to board and is not too heavy , but the swing weight is defnitely something noticeable compared to non releasers but something that is easy to get used to . The biggest issue for me is that worry about messing up my joints does not make for a good skiboarding experience for me and I like to not worry about it . Although I love the feel of non releaseable high end bindings on skiboards ( I have Line ff pros) , I was tending to be more careful when riding my skiboards because I was worried about injury ,so switched to using the Spruce riser system . I am very happy with the Spruce pro primes which I bought this season and although heavier then my non releasers , the peace of mind is worth it to me.

Whittal
12-23-2008, 09:01 AM
Hey Jjue, thanks for the link. I'm not fond of the idea of having the boards too long so the KTP's look like the best option. The only question is what is the difference between the KTP and the Revolts?

As for me I am around 5'8"-5'9" and I weigh 168.

jjue
12-23-2008, 09:13 AM
Hey Jjue, thanks for the link. I'm not fond of the idea of having the boards too long so the KTP's look like the best option. The only question is what is the difference between the KTP and the Revolts?

As for me I am around 5'8"-5'9" and I weigh 168.

Whittal , basically these two boards are becoming real bestsellers because they hit a super compromise between manuverability and stability in variable snow . They have similar surface area but spread the surface area out differently . The Revolt is longer and skinnier although still quite fat , the KTP is shorter and fatter. I do not have the Revolt but have the Alp which has the same dimensions as the Revolt and just 5cm longer and my take on these things are extrapolated from my experience on the Alp . Maybe others can chime in who have ridden both .. I think the KTP will feel more manuverable but will be a bit less stable front to back in variable snow . The Revolt will be quicker edge to edge , but the KTP being shorter will have a bit of a more sporty feel to it . The KTP is a bit stiffer then the Revolt . These are two excellent boards and would be a difficult choice for me , they do have different feels however. I guess , my personal choice , would be if I was in a place that had lots of really icy snow I would go for the stiffer KTP , if I were mostly in terrain that had softer snow . I would go for the longer and more flexible Revolt . For a newbie the Revolt might be a fraction easier at first because it is narrower and a bit easier to get on edge , then the wider KTP especially for lighter riders .
So all in all I think I would recommend the Revolt for you .

Whittal
12-23-2008, 09:24 AM
Thanks for the advice, it's been really helpful. The only problem is that I intend to go to both icy and soft snow. Damn, I like the ability to go edge to edge quick but I do plan on trying a lot of powder next time I go as I spend all of my time with Snowboarders. I'll have to think about it for a while. And with the Spruce risers and binders is there really much of a difference between the Pro and Lite version apart from the brake?

jjue
12-23-2008, 09:28 AM
I think the Pro prime and Pro lite will be essentially the same performance wise , the main difference leash vs brake ..

Whittal
12-23-2008, 09:39 AM
That's what i thought. The Extra large breaks for the skiboards are on backorder though which makes me look at the Lites.

I still need to choose a boot though.

pinkkid
12-23-2008, 12:01 PM
The KTP with Pro Primes- the one with the brake(will need to be spread some to fit the KTP); Boots, either Dabella's or a Solomon Beast 10.

There's my 2 cents. But the Revolt would be fine too!

Go to dogfunk.com for stuff like goggles, clothes etc.

Shelley

Whittal
12-23-2008, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the suggestion on the boots. I've already got my goggles and clothes, pretty happy with the black red and white scheme i got going on. :P

pinkkid
12-23-2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestion on the boots. I've already got my goggles and clothes, pretty happy with the black red and white scheme i got going on. :P

cool... hmmm black and white theme... Revlot Tree's Skiboards!

Whittal
12-24-2008, 11:57 AM
Whoop! Red black and white has always been my colour scheme... it's just s damn easy!