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mahatma
01-07-2009, 07:12 AM
OK, I spent the day intentionally pitting the Spruce Sherpa and Lacroix 125's on the long, steep mogul pocked land known as Happo One. Before I get to the story, I'm one very tired puppy. Damn.

There was no powder today. Hard pack with powder dust. I always start the day with a few bunny runs to see what condition my condition is in. My plan was to use the Sherpa's as I had a certain familiarity with them. But, in the end the Lacroix's came out of the bag first so were snapped on. I found the Lacroix's to be well mannered in all circumstances. Not a single complaint. That said, there was something about that demeanor that came across as insincere on the bunny. The boards felt well, the best way I can describe it was the Lacroix's seemed bored. I didn't lay down a single carve on the long, fast bunny I was on. I just kept the boards flat and ran down at a very good speed but the boards were just stable and firm. I never felt out of control but the one time I tried to lay the boards over they basically balked. OK. Up to higher ground. I bumped up a lift and hit an intermediate slope. I didn't try to take it down Superman style and the Lacroix's balked. They weren't interested. Up one more stage. Now I'm just one level from the top of Happo and it is steep and fast. I chose a wide run, set up tight on one side and decided to let fear decide when I tried my first carve. Bingo!. The Lacroix's immediately (and I do mean immediately) laid up on both edges and acted like they were on rails. I wasn't dragging my knuckled. I had my knee up in my chest my downhill board extended but not to the point it was stretched out but the boards just railed. At speed, transitions were a dream. Just roll the boards over and rail. No soft edging bullshit. Scrub off too much speed and boards return to yawning status. They are stiff but they do flex. When you get the boards to flex you will notice an odd, deep noise. That's the sonic boom you just created. They don't do soft edge really. If your on a transition slope just keep the Lacroix's flat and push them around. It's not a power driven thing. It's more style - even finesse. The boards want to be treated in a certain fashion. Oh yea, I give the Lacroix's serious props in moguls. No bull. They get the job done. They feel very small and easy to keep together.

I could have rode them all day. There was a reason I didn't. At around 1030 I was at the top of Happo for the 2nd time and it has a steep, relatively narrow run down to where you can make a decision to go 3 different ways. If you hook a 90 degree turn you are on a steep, wide pitch that is perfect for high speed carving. Skiers love it. Snowboarders were doing it too but it's skier heaven. So, I hooked the left for the second time, was barreling down, and set into my final carve hard core gorilla style. 10 feet in front of me as I turned was another human being in a hard core skier type carving crouch. It was nothing close to a fair fight. I leveled what turned out to be someone's grandmother. The old bird was hauling ass, I'll give her that. I knocked her out cold. I of course screeched to a halt which at that speed to a bit of distance, got my boards off, ran over and stabbed them into the groom in an X pattern in front of her, scrambled around picking up her goggles and poles while her husband who was not far behind started slapping her hand and she came around. Ski patrol showed up in short order, checked her out and the old man, while using words I didn't fully understand so the ski patrolman translated essentially said that his opinion was no one was at fault. He was behind us and we were right across from each other at one point and I turned left at the exact time his wife turned right and that was that. I was just too damn big. The old lady came around in about 5 minutes enough to get up and make it to the coffee shop at the bottom of the run and we exchanged cell numbers and the old man said if they did not call me then everything was fine. They never called. I went and put on the Sherpas as my carving buzz was shot.

The Sherpa's were a total joy in everything but the one tight, rutted mogul patch I took them down. They were just too much for me to handle. Too big to keep together and the pitch was way too steep for me to even think about bouncing along the tops of the moguls. Although, there were a few skiers doing exactly that and looking damn good to boot. Unlike the Lacroix's the Sherpa's soft edge well. I really enjoy the sort of V8 feel of the Sherpa's. You just know you've got something underneath you that is powerful. The Lacroix's were much more invisible. They chewed up the fast groom in grand style, never feeling large or bulky. To the contrary they were very pleasing. On the Sherpa's I dragged my knuckles. They are a totally different carving experience. They hook up in a longer arch. Well, to me anyway and therefore lend themselves to a more stretched out, lean against the mountain type of feel. I also ran the Sherpa's through some of the nice ungroomed sides snowboarder style and had a blast. I really enjoyed the 2 hours I spent on them today.

But, the carving jones returned and demanded to be fed. I had no choice but to comply. For me, today, at Happo, the Lacroix's were the preferred platform. I loved them.

By 1500 my thighs refused to filter lactic acid any longer, became weak and took on a gentle shake. I stopped a little early today.

jjue
01-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Wonderful review Mahatma! It is a shame that Lacroix has exited the US skiboard market . the Lacroix 125 is still available in Europe as the Exclaim 125 . Your run on the Lacroix sort of echoes my original feeling about the board .
In terms of my own feeling about things , I have realized that my quiver is too big , and I have not been doing myself a service riding too many boards . Each of these boards has their own personalities and my goal this season is really to become an expert pilot on the one board that is closest to singing my song in all conditions , for me that has to be the Sherpa .
Your points about the soft edge issue is actually a very important point to me . I also agree that the Lacroix is a more compact feeling board and a better carver , but the off piste prowness of the Sherpa and the ability to feather my edges, use a soft edge when I want to and not charge hard all the time way outweigh the Lacroix carving ability for me . In terms of tight icy steep moguls , I agree , they are a challenge with the Sherpa , which is why I had to pull out the poles last weekend on that kind of stuff , but the fact that with the poles they became easy , tells me that it probably is not the board but rather the pilot that is the problem! :) and if I keep practicing and maybe not eat too much for lunch , I might be shredding that stuff a la Skafreak without poles pretty damn soon !'

ps . I think you are certainly becoming a big board freak , Mahatma .. it is becoming quite clear to me that on pow days that Sherpa will be coming out and on the hard snow icy high speed carve days that Lacroix will be the choice ... nice quiver !! I am happy that my reviews did not cause you to spend your money unwisely :)!

mahatma
01-07-2009, 08:48 AM
jjue,

If anyone demanded of me to decide which single skiboard I would use for eternity I would say the Sherpa. Hands down really. I would miss the playfulness of the 120's and the Lacroix's excitement but right now the Sherpa is the finest all around example of a skiboard I've used.

Mogul wise, for me there is no doubt it is the pilot. After all, the skiers I referenced were making that field look easy while I was a complete wreck. I was miserable.

The soft edge technique and the smoothness the Sherpa and 120's show in this area are an absolute benefit. I wonder if it has to do with the edge angle? 88 vs 90.

Again though, even in my less than deft hands the Lacroix's were a real winner today. The worst part about the Lacroix's were letting myself bomb straight down the fall line until I almost wet myself just to get the party started. Once I gave into that they were great and while I didn't mention it in my first write up they are very powerful at stopping, very good at accepting directions and feel effortless when transitioning. I really tightened up my carve with them because again I didn't find knuckle dragging to be the way to work them. I felt great impressing myself with how I could flick the boards around at speed and maitain the speed in sort of hyper-carves.

wjeong
01-07-2009, 12:03 PM
Very nice review Mahatma. I'm glad no one got seriously hurt in the collision. It very interesting to me how different all our boards ride. It's really nice to be able to pick a ride based on the conditions and how one feels on a particular day. My fellow skiers look at my collection of rides and don't really understand why I have so many. I think it's viewed more as a fetish than a different experience. The Sherpa and Lacroix are incredibly different beasts. I like the smallish feeling of the Lacroix a lot as I can ride it lazier. The Sherpa always feels so big on my feet until I get it to a certain speed. The edge hold on both these boards is now a standard for me.

Wendell

valmorel
01-07-2009, 12:35 PM
Nice going Mahatma. Its great to see you having such a blast on the Longboards, and demonstrating to us all that they are actually quite easy to ride. Given a little time to get them figured, I am sure you will find the Sherpa to be a total carving monster. I have never ridden anything that can carve so hard, and that includes carving race skis.
BTW, if you ever come to ski in Europe, please let me know, so I can stay home :-)

slow
01-07-2009, 10:32 PM
Great review Mahatma (but why did you not post it in the "Review" section?:D) I was curious to hear how the 125 Lacroix and Sherpa compared.

BTW: good to hear that the grandma made it. But I have to admit, I could not stop laughing when reading the thread. You really need to write a book.

mahatma
01-08-2009, 04:56 AM
jjue,

I think every one of your reviews creates a certain need inside of me. I want to be jjue! The small quiver I have feels so right. I'm totally satisfied. You are correct in your assessment. It looks like the 120's will be used whenever I want to work on new things or the resort I'm going to is more relaxed, the Sherpa's are without a doubt my powder boards and the Lacroix's will be a steady friend as the season progresses. I wonder if I can gate crash with them. Hmmm.

Valmorel,

Ha ha. Something tells me if we are on the same slope you'll be that ever dwindling rider in front of me that I just can't seem to catch.

Wjeong,

I could not agree about edge hold more. The Lacroix's and Sherpa's are totally different animals but I don't find one to be more draining than the other. But it is surprising how differently they behave. The Sherpa's make me feel big and bad while the Lacroix's make me feel sexy. I like both feelings.

Slow,

Yea, I should have put this in the review section. Good point. A book - boy I'd need to find a publisher that is way past struggling. Although, where I'm at right now, I know what I would want the title to be - "Others". Because that's all that is really important. My job now is to have that title make sense.