Spruce 120's VS Twin Tip Skis

[me3990]

I was thinking and wondering why everyone is saying that the Spruce 120's and Sherpa's would be bad in the park when people ride longer twin tip skis in the park a lot? I'm guessing there is a good answer to this.

[SkaFreak]

A big reason why skiboarders who ride park chose skiboards over skis is the extra manueverability and low swing weight. It's just a different feel. The Sherpas are pretty heavy which makes them less ideal. The 120's would not be terrible park boards if you were ok with giving up the manueverability for the extra stability on landings, but with boards like the Revolts, KTPs, Condors, etc. there is not as much of a need for that.

[slow]

I was thinking and wondering why everyone is saying that the Spruce 120's and Sherpa's would be bad in the park when people ride longer twin tip skis in the park a lot? I'm guessing there is a good answer to this.

Another reason may be that many skiboarders in the park ride non-release bindings. The Sherpa and 120s require releasables which add weight.

BTW, are you going to make it to Asessippi on Saturday?

[me3990]

BTW, are you going to make it to Asessippi on Saturday?

No i can't, really really mad that i can't. Family doesn't want to go if we are already going in 2 weeks. Sorry.



Then how do people do park stuff on twin tips if they are heavier and longer and have releasable???

[slow]

Sorry, what I was trying to say is that many skiboarders seem to like non-release bindings on skiboards due to the lighter weight (and rigid coupling), so they stay with shorter skiboards (110 & less) that can be used with non-release bindings.

Then there are other riders that use release bindings on their skiboards. It comes down to personal preference.

Too bad you can not make it to Asessippi this weekend. Have fun when you do go.

[t21]

i ask the same question a while back and i think one guy did try the 120 on park and he said it was ok. was that dave lyman??
also our releasable is attached to a riser for better carving/manueverability so i figure it would a different feel when landing jumps.

[Bill]

Mark Carraro is a very accomplished park rider and I believe he rides Spruce release bindings with good results.

If I'm not mistaken, the length limit for many skiboard competitions is 110 cm?

[me3990]

I just don't get why people would ride long skis in the park when it seems that shorter the board the better??? I'm not comparing 120's to boards shorter, i'm comparing 120's to twin tip 170's or so????

[CrazyBoy-1]

Again, it comes down to personal preference. If you were to talk to a group of twinnies, they'd probably ask why anyone would want to ride skiboards in the park which are harder to land jumps on and can be harder to balance on rails. Both skiboards and twin-tip skis have their pros and cons. The 120's are kind of in the middle there. They're still considered skiboards, but they lack the same maneuverability, and they don't give you the option of using non-release bindings.

[kirk]

When people talk about park, there are a lot of different variables...

Generally when skiboarders talk about good park boards, we are talking about boards that are good for the parks that people actually ride - usually ones with a lot of decent or so rails, and a handful of jumps in the 20-40' range. This is the park that 99% of everyone gets to ride, and in these conditions, shorter, wider boards allow more freedom, less swing weight, and are generally more 'fun'.

Longer boards and skis can of course be used in these kinds of parks, but you're dealing with a lot of extra real estate that gets in the way. When skiers talk about good park skis, they seem to have the notion that everyone gets to ride 70'+ jumps every day. When you are talking about things of this scale, skis of course will have the advantage of being more stable. At this point, since you have so much more time in the air, the extra swing weight isn't as much of an issue.

When looking at what makes a good park board, factor what parks you are talking about as well as what you want from your boards. If your park has 80' jumps that you plan on hitting every day, longer boards may be the way to go, but if you plan on doing a lot of tech rail tricks, shorter boards are probably more up your alley.

[TenDi]

Yeah, in the 20-40 range, my 94cm boards are the best thing ever :)

but shure thing You can ride anything, anywhere if one wishes.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4259329539_9bf9e2ff2c.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UaE_LWDDWk

[nate]

It's a trade off between the quick feel and the stability.
I think there is a lot to be said for the added stability.
But to each his own.

[FITSnoClub4Life]

I'm a big fan of my 120s. I recently moved up from 99s and the difference in landing makes up for the added weight in my opinion. I haven't had to focus on my landing very much, so I can focus more on perfecting grabs and such.