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  1. #1 Short Skis and Long Poles 
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    If you are a no pole traditionalist, just move on, nothing to see here.

    I don't use poles with my Ickys, but do find them useful with the Sherpas. I was, however, starting to find that the standard length poles were forcing me more forwards than I wanted to be, in a ski like stance. Even on the longboards, I prefer to stand up straight and keep a center mount balance. So, inspired by the infamous Alta skiblader, I decided to give some longer poles a go and bought some 54 inchers from LevelNine. Sempai and I actually me this guy a few seasons ago at Westfest and spent some time with him. He is a hoot, if a little eccentric, and great to skiboard with. He had a lady with him who was just tearing up the moguls on a pair of 75 cm blades. Good times! Anyway, these new long poles are great. I can stand up straight and still get all the benefits of using poles.

    Here he is, with his bamboo long poles.

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    How tall are you? I use telescopic poles and I find 125cm (~49in) work well for my 1.79m (~70in) frame to give an upright stance for going uphill and maybe just-just short for downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysb33r View Post
    How tall are you? I use telescopic poles and I find 125cm (~49in) work well for my 1.79m (~70in) frame to give an upright stance for going uphill and maybe just-just short for downhill.

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    5í9Ē and my new poles are 54Ē. Of course you donít have to hold them right at the ends if you need to shorten them.
    Just these, nothing else !

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    Cool video. Yet again proving that all short ski riders are a bit weird but still overwhelmingly comfortable in their own skin.

    Iím still not using poles.
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    Like Sempai , I like using telescopic poles. I use three section poles . You can make them taller for more upright stance or shorten them for more forward leaning stance, or if you are wearing a day pack just shorten them completely and put them on the pack and ride without them.
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    Is the thought of age brings on the poles? Iíve not used them once while on shorties, but being a inline skater I know the skating technique oh so well that itís second nature


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom91381 View Post
    Is the thought of age brings on the poles? Iíve not used them once while on shorties, but being a inline skater I know the skating technique oh so well that itís second nature


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    There are a couple of reasons for me.

    The first, where age may come into play, is where you have to skate on longboards. Poles make that so much easier. For instance there is a two hundred yard flat section of cat track at Snowbowl that you either have to skate or pole down. Then there are also times like lift corrals, flats, uphill hikes and getting stuck in powder.

    Poles are also useful on skis and longboards when you want to adopt a more forwards ski technique and time your turns.

    I donít use them with my Ickys, just my Sherpas.
    Just these, nothing else !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom91381 View Post
    Is the thought of age brings on the poles? Iíve not used them once while on shorties, but being a inline skater I know the skating technique oh so well that itís second nature


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    I think age has a little to do with it, but it's not the main factor for me. I swore I would never use poles. Then Jack let me use his in moguls one time at Heavenly. It instantly made a huge difference, less tiring and quicker getting down. I also went to using poles when riding with Jack just to be able to keep up with him in moguls and trees. Plus, they help to get around all the crazy places he likes to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
    There are a couple of reasons for me.

    The first, where age may come into play, is where you have to skate on longboards. Poles make that so much easier. For instance there is a two hundred yard flat section of cat track at Snowbowl that you either have to skate or pole down. Then there are also times like lift corrals, flats, uphill hikes and getting stuck in powder.

    Poles are also useful on skis and longboards when you want to adopt a more forwards ski technique and time your turns.
    Yes, I agree with all this too. It's harder getting around on the longboards, especially on flats, in lift lines, in powder, uphill, etc. Tom, take your Sherpas out on a powder day without poles. You'll see what we mean. Also the forward stance thing is true, especially going down a steep run. You can use the poles to keep better balance and slow down when needed.

    The Sherpas were the only boards that I used poles with until recently. Jack and I were at Kirkwood both on the Crossbows, him with poles and me without. It took no time at all before I realized I needed to go back out to my Jeep and get my poles if I was to keep up with him. Good thing I did because we took our boards off and hiked out of bounds searching for untouched powder. We found it but also found ourselves in a tough situation. If I hadn't had poles, I probably wouldn't have gotten out of that situation.

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    Loved that video--thanks for posting, Paul!
    I agree with Sempai that poles help in bumps or powder. They help me reach/lean forward on steep moguls that might otherwise make me nervous to get started down. They also help with unweighting for hop turns in the steeps. In the deep stuff I find they help my balance.
    That said, the last couple days out on crossbows I went pole-free because we skiid with a teen who rides long skis without poles, so I wanted to try it. They were actually pretty great without poles! Groomers were smooth, and off piste was skiid out with some chopped powder in the trees, but Crossbows were easier than I thought to manage without the sticks in line and everywhere else.
    My Westfest quiver will be Crossbows and Chad's spare XL's for Brighton trees. I'll probably use poles on the Crossbow days to improve my technique on those steeper bump runs!
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    Has anyone else hooked the outside edge of the Crossbows? They hook into that edge so well on the curves and a couple of times I must have over-exaggerated the quick turns and almost fell when the outside edge hooked in TOO much. If you've been riding XL's, it truly is such a different feeling. Just wondering if anyone else experienced that.
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    Iím not to sure what Iím bringing to Westfest, but with my son coming I can bring at least 3 different boards. Should be XLís crossbows and Stickies, unless I get some Spliffs then it will be a toss up


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    Quote Originally Posted by CANtoo View Post
    Has anyone else hooked the outside edge of the Crossbows? They hook into that edge so well on the curves and a couple of times I must have over-exaggerated the quick turns and almost fell when the outside edge hooked in TOO much. If you've been riding XL's, it truly is such a different feeling. Just wondering if anyone else experienced that.
    Can happen in crud snow, but only when trying to switch a number of turns in rapid succession.

    BTW this year I had them tuned to 89į edges and I've only expetienced a hooked feeling once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysb33r View Post
    Can happen in crud snow, but only when trying to switch a number of turns in rapid succession.

    BTW this year I had them tuned to 89į edges and I've only expetienced a hooked feeling once.

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    Mine seemed a little aggressive with tune, so I took the bite off the tips and tails. Much better now.
    Just these, nothing else !

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  14. #14 Oops--wrong thread 
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    Thanks for the helpful responses, guys. Just realized I meant to put that question in the Crossbows review thread, but was still on Paul's and accidentally posted here. Can't wait to compare notes at WestFest.
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