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    Full Tilt introduced a 102 mm last boot called the "Influence" for the 2010/11 season. This thread refers to the "Original" 3 piece Full Tilt boot with a 98 mm last.

    Full Tilt boots have a reputation of being "narrower" than other boots. This may be turning some riders away from trying them. I know I stayed away, but took a chance and ordered a couple of pair for myself and kept one pair when ordering a pair for my wife. Turns out they fit me very well after oven heat molding. When I measure my foot width, it is 104 mm which is considered relatively wide for a size 10 men’s shoe. That is why I generally size up to US size 10.5.

    The reason may be explained by referring to the following table compiled from various sources. (Note that the widths presented are NOT for Full Tilt Boots. Rather the width presented is generally used to characterize narrow, average or wide feet in the US sizing system.)



    Using myself as an example, my longest foot is 28.2 centimeters (shortest 27.8), and 104 wide (last). To get a race boot fit, It was recommended by a local ski shop that I should buy a 27.5 mondo that would give me a 5 mm gap length when shell fitting.

    I ordered both a 27.0 and 28.0 mondo FT boot. Remember that the shells are the same for a 27 and 27.5 boot, or 28.0 and 28.5; only the liners differ. (You can make a 27 boot work for a 27.5 size with liner oven heat molding. This is the route one should take if you have a low volume ankle and lower leg like I do.)

    I found that I could get the desired race boot fit of 5 mm in the 27 shell, but the width was too narrow (as the US sizing chart would suggest). Whereas the 28 shell, gave me 15 mm of shell length gap (still within the 20 mm maximum boot fitting guideline, although not at the 10 mm desired gap). But the width was fine (as the US sizing chart would suggest).

    To give other riders a better idea if they have a chance of fitting into Full Tilts, FT boot riders please post:
    * your foot length in centimeters,
    * foot width in milimeters,
    * high/average/low instep and
    * what mondo/FT size you have (FT uses both mondo and US sizing).
    *Also make any notes that may be of value to others such as pressure points and if you heat molded the liner (over or hot air).

    My specs:
    28.2 cm longest foot when standing without footbed
    104 mm wide when standing without footbed
    average instep height
    28 mondo/size 10 Full Tilt boot
    Notes;
    * Fits well without any pressure points after home oven heat molding the liner and relocating the top cable's anchor point.
    * Was difficult to latch the bottom cable before heat molding with my custom foot bed installed.
    * Bottom cable put too much force on my instep before heat molding with my custom foot bed installed.
    * I had to relocate the anchor point of the top cable to lengthen it to fit around my leg.
    * After one season, I had the sides of my boots punched out to give my toes some extra width.

    This is what we have for data so far:



    ** Note that FFA has sold his FTs. He found that they were too narrow for his very wide foot. So be aware of the risk of trying to fit a wide foot into a FT.

    Check this thread for boot shell fit checks http://www.skiboardsonline.com/forum...ead.php?t=8813
    Last edited by slow; 01-02-2011 at 05:06 PM. Reason: Added note about new "Influence" style FT boot and that I had my boots punched out after one season.


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    Good idea Slow. I didn't think they'd work for me either because I always thought I had big feet. Turns out they fit great though and I should have tried them on a long time ago. I don't really think anyone knows what size a "wide foot" really is so this will help a lot to make the term relative instead of a mystery.

    One thing I'll say about Full Tilts, granted not having skied in them yet, is that they are lighter than any boot out there. The difference from my old boots blew me away and I can't wait to get out on the hill tomorrow for the first time to try them out.

    I'll post my sizes once I get a chance to measure at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swallowevil View Post
    One thing I'll say about Full Tilts, granted not having skied in them yet, is that they are lighter than any boot out there.
    I am actually finding the opposite, My FTs are slightly heavier than my previous Performa 6.0 boots with Intuition liners. Probably depends on the brand and model. The new liner or all the material I removed by grinding the shells may have made the difference.


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    Bump.

    Full Tilt riders, please pull out your tape measures or rulers. I will even convert your inch dimensions for you.

    This is a small way to help your skiboarding community. So just do it!


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    So my wife and I went out for the first time tonight. I had a chance to try my Full Tilts (09 High Fives) for the first time and man they are awesome. I can't believe I've been riding so long in another boot. Anyways, I said I'd post my measurements to help others when looking at full tilts. Here they are:

    27.7cm in length
    10cm at the widest point

    (I have mondo size 28.0 high fives)
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    Thanks swallowevil. What mondo boot size, 27.5 or 28?


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    Quote Originally Posted by slow View Post
    Thanks swallowevil. What mondo boot size, 27.5 or 28?
    I went with size 28.0.
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    Thanks.

    I assume you did not heat mold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slow View Post
    Thanks.

    I assume you did not heat mold.
    nope, just wore them around the house for a couple hours and removed the heel spacer, other than that, I didn't do anything to them.
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    25.70 centimeters Length

    95.25 millimeters Width.

    27.5 boot Size

    I'm hoping the boot will pack out a bit after the first day. My left toe is a bit scrunched. Fit
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    Thanks cn06.

    Should the length read 27.5?

    And no heat molding based on your comment?


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    Men's Shoe Size: 8.5
    Mondo Size: 26.6
    Shell: 301
    Never have had my last measured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofmedia View Post
    Men's Shoe Size: 8.5
    Mondo Size: 26.6
    Shell: 301
    Never have had my last measured.
    Just measure it by standing on a ruler please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slow View Post
    I am actually finding the opposite, My FTs are slightly heavier than my previous Performa 6.0 boots with Intuition liners. Probably depends on the brand and model. The new liner or all the material I removed by grinding the shells may have made the difference.
    Slow,

    That's odd. The pair of FT's I have are lighter than any ski boot I've ever handled by a large margin. I wonder if different FT models weigh the same? Do you know how much yours weigh? I'll weigh mine tonight when I get home. I'll be careful not to use my "special" fish scales.

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